Template talk:Gospel Jesus

[edit] Which pages to include on the template?

Which articles are noteworthy enough to include on the template? I considered adding several of the others, but someone said that the Hell one was too minor, I figured some of the childhood ones could fit as subdivisions of Child Jesus, etc. It's all very difficult to decide, so, say here which of the following we should have on the template. Bolded ones are the ones we currently have.

• Chronology of Jesus
• Miracles of Jesus
• Nativity
• Presentation of Jesus at the Temple
• Child Jesus
• Finding in the Temple
• Baptism of Jesus
• Temptation of Christ
• Sermon on the Plain
• Sermon on the Mount
• Transfiguration
• The Last Supper
• Passion
• Crucifixion (new)
• Harrowing of Hell (new)
• Resurrection of Jesus
• xEmpty tomb
• Ascension

-Silence 07:39, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Crucifixion, definitely — RDF ^talk 22:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

OK. I still support including "Harrowing of Hell", myself; we don't have anything on his actual death right now. -Silence 22:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm an inclusionist. Let someone else take them out. — RDF ^talk 23:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Cool. Anyway, new question: what do you think of the new template, which I made to try and make it possible to put the template somewhere in the Jesus page other than the very bottom, thus making it easier to access? Do you think we should (1) use the same template on all the articles linked to with it, and accordingly move it to the upper-left corner of the article (I'll try that on Nativity just to test how it looks), or (2) should we create two different templates, one box-shaped one for the middle of the Jesus page and one elongated one for the bottom of the other pages, or (3) should we revert it to the old style and not worry about putting the template into a topical area of the Jesus page? -Silence 00:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I was just about to suggest "option 2"! :-) I wikified one to go right (under another) and one to center. — RDF ^talk 00:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

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Also, I think you should go ahead and put it in the applicable articles. Good job! — RDF ^talk 01:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Try it at Chronology of Jesus too. — RDF ^talk 02:22, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Relativity to Life of Jesus

I have a problem in particular with the link to Crucifixion. That page is not about the Crucifixion of Jesus, it is about crucifixions in general. Placing this template on that page obscures that fact, so I am removing it. However, I'm not sure where to link the template to. Didn't there used to be a Crucifixion of Jesus page? There's certainly enough material for it, so I wonder what ever happened. Regardless, the template only belongs on pages or at least sections relative to Jesus's life. You wouldn't expect to see this template on childhood, baptism, temptation, or Hell, so it doesn't belong on crucifixion either. Davilla 08:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The crucifixion is mostly discussed at Passion. The actual death of Jesus is now discussed at Death of Jesus.

The Hell part isn't actually really mentioned in the Gospels, so it shouldn't be on the template. The Harrowing of Hell comes from things like the Gospel of Nicodemus, and other medieval and apocryphal (New Testament apocrypha) traditions, but doesn't really belong on a list of events from the Canonical Gospels.Clinkophonist 13:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)