Template talk:Celtic nations

[edit] And Galicia?

Why dont put Galicia as a celtic nation? Galicia does not have a celtic language but it is a celtic nation instead. Please, change it or put a special status for the Galician country (nation of Breogán).--193.144.48.15 17:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This template contains the Celtic nations as determined by major pan-Celtic organizations such as Celtic League (political organisation) and Celtic Congress. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 19:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] refocus

This template has evolved significantly from the original version i.e. solely languages/nations, to something which encompasses almost all of modern Celtic culture, perhaps it is worth modifying it to be celtic regions and extending it to include Galicia, which would contribute geographic, music and cultural articles. I can undertand the origianl objections, but are they still valid? 86.12.249.63 08:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link creepage

I'm going to remove the links to Shelta and Galloway Gaelic. Lets just stick to the major languages. Shelta isn’t a Goidelic language at all anyway and if we’re to include Galloway Gaelic then where do we stop? I’m sure the differences between Munster and Ulster Irish are equally significant, but do we really need to include them?

You can find links to this info on the pages linked here anyway.

☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 07:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above regarding dialects of the major Celtic languages, but given that this template is about Celtic nations, what is the rationale for excluding languages spoken exclusively or mainly by the populations of those nations (e.g. Shelta, Lallans/Scots language, Ulster Scots)? It seems clear to me that such languages need to be included here.
--Yumegusa (talk) 08:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Celtic "nations" has no existence in reality, its the invention of a minor political organisation which has no real world standing. Weekender recreationalists. To try and lump Germanic languages like Scots language and Ulster Scots as if they were "Celtic" is absouteluy ridiculous, proposterous against WP:CITE and most likely offensive to the people who speak them. Especially with Ulster Scots. You can't simply mythologically rewrite history and pretend Germanic languages belong in a template about Celtic Revivalists, who are you to enforce this minor political organisations stances onto millions of people who have no connection with it? - Essence Burst (talk) 09:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

The template is "Celtic nations" and reference to modern Celtic nations is found in numerous neutral sources (check Google Books), so it's hard to read the above as anything but baseless rant. What basis is there for removing Germanic languages spoken mainly or exclusively by populations of said Celtic nations from this template? What a "minor political organisation"'s stance is is of no relevance here, so let's stay on-topic.--Yumegusa (talk) 10:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

The chance that User:Essence Burst is anything but a sockpuppet of User:Voice of the Walk is minimal. From time to time we have to deal with these people who have decided there are no such things as Celts, that's it's all some sort of conspiracy against the English. Yawn. WP:RBI. —Angr 12:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)