Talk:Web portal

As someone who is shopping for, and consequently bewildered by, web portal software on the less than corporate enterprise level, I find this article inadequate in that it does not address this wide array of software that is out there, nor is there a link or disambiguation (Word is too complex) to these other forms (soopportal.org, web wiz forums, maxwebportal extreme, etc) of web portal. I would glady do an article myself, but clearly I'm not ready. I, and I suspect others, need someone more knowledgeable to at least start the ball rolling here. Please? Thanx. :-)Natcolley 18:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)</math>(database) that will drive all the processes (paperwork).

- If the Portal is accessible using only a webbrowser, the company could save millions of dollars because they would never need client/server software... just browsers.

- I've used the Portal is a House speech many times... let me know if it helps you better understand. Gifford Watkins (talk) 11:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms

It would be nice to have a criticisms section for this article (and most articles on Wikipedia in general), from both the POV of the end user, and the POV of startups that have ideas that should be independent of portals but which are bought out by portals.Biturica (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] not neutral: Java centric.

This is a well writen article but it is Java centric. What a web portal is should not be defined by the implementation of a portal in Java. I love Java but mentions of it should be in a links section or an example section. Peter 13:13, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

I find no point-of-view asserted here. Please see Wikipedia:NPOV regarding the use of the {{NPOV}} tag. If it being Java centric is concerned, then I invite you to expand the article to cover portals made in other languages. Thanks! -- Perfecto  01:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

If the no point-of-view policy is about unbiased articles, then your correction is not good. The article is biased towards only one technology, implying that a web portal can only be made from Java technologies. The article should be language neutral in defining what a portal is. I will take you up on your invitation and see if I can write something acceptable. I know it is not an easy thing. I will see about it over the weekend.-- Peter 13:07, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm a Portal Software developer. Any room for my opinion? Ok great... perhaps Portals ought to be defined by the cultures they create? Gifford Watkins (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official statement from a student of Jakob Nielsen

• A 'portal' refers to a location on the World Wide Web while a 'Wikiportal' should refer to 'Wikiportals' here on Wikipedia. The 'portal' use confuses users. Let us clarify this as soon as possible. I suggest 'portal' designers begin their conversion to 'wikiportal' immediately. I should know. Like Al Gore, I built the Internet. Ha! Anyway, I have started the switch to Wikiportals with the new Central Intelligence Agency Wikiportal which you can find here Sincerely, CelebritySecurity 22:39, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, what about the fact that a Wiki can be a small part of a portal? Gifford Watkins (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vortal?

Vortal redirects here. What is a vortal? The word doesn't occur here even though it redirects here. RJFJR 17:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Vortal was, for a short time in the 90s, used to describe a "vertical portal". I don't know if any of those still exists, but the idea was to gather links to businesses in a certain field and maybe let them share information with each other. --Busifer 13:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Try this link to an explanation of Vortals... What is a Vortal?...Gifford Watkins (talk) 11:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] citation

There's only one citation (Bauer, H. H., M. Hammerschmidt, and T. Falk) -- should I presume that the citation was the source of this information?

"Some corporate analysts have predicted that corporate intranet Web portal spending will be one of the top five areas for growth in the Internet technologies sector during the first decade of the 21st century."

There's Web Portals -- generic term for a type of web application -- and there's Portal Servers, which is a type of enterprise software meant to help set up websites that are Web Portals. I am thinking these should be two different articles.

[edit] List of examples needed

I added a list of examples to the Web portal article because I do believe the article is missing examples. But someone reverted it. Why can't there be a list with examples?

I think it would be very helpful to people trying to understand what a web portal is, if they could see some examples of the kind of sites this article talks about. The list I added was a generic list, not adverticing any portal in specific. And I did try to be as objective as possible and list different kinds of portals (PHP, ASP and .Net).

I have also now read up on the policies that applies for editing since I thought I had done something wrong, and was wondering what that could be. And I found that to give some examples in the article to clarify what the article is about does not breake any rules or policies what so ever, so, when honest objective and correct editing isn't welcome, well then, this was my first and last edit and I truely couldn't care less if you block me because I will not visit this place again since it's obviously a waste of time.

MaggieJ 15:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Some mention should also be made of the web portal software, such as PHP-Nuke, which allows people to create a portal for their site. The relationship between web content management software and portals should be discussed (portals are often powered by CMS's). I dont want to write this - I have little experience of portal design not incoporating a CMS - wouldn't be NPOV, but if anyone has any suggestions? 12:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps instead of looking at the different types of technology powering Portals, we ought to be looking at the different cultures that revolve around portals. A portal could be defined by the type of 'culture' communicating under the digital roof of a Portal? For instance... Family WebPortals, Business Portals, Church Portals, Community Portals, etc. Gifford Watkins (talk) 11:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, I cannot contribute to the discussion because I am trying to learn the terminology. What is the difference between a web portal and a search engine? I think examples might help a neophyte like me. That information is what I wanted from this article.Krenmas 01:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Well.. how about Wikipedia? I mean seriously. I think we have to be careful of not catering to one kind or brand of portal in this article. This is a summary article. An article on a specific kind of portal should have some examples perhaps. Alex Jackl 17:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I have a whack of Intel powered DotNetNuke portals here... but I do this for a living... so folks might want to delete this... Gifford Watkins (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Toned down the advert-y nature of the NICUSA reference in the government articles.

Statements like " the most successful company in this area" do not belong in an an encyclopedia article unless their is lots of back source material and statistics . I also took out the funding model statements because that funding model is one of many (and there fore inappropriate to single out - again advertising) and would not work for many government portals like education for instance. (my area of expertise).

Happy to discuss this with anyone... Alex Jackl 17:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Corporate Portal and Enterprise Portal the same?

Reading this page I find the paragraph on Corporate Portal covers similar topics as the page on Enterprise portals. I suggest to replace Corporate Portal by Enterprise Portal and to condense the content of this article to a short introduction linking to the full page on enterprise portals. Also on the disambiguation page on Portals, the notion of web portal is linked with enterprise portal as a sub-notion and not Corporate Portal. Although we could consider and Enterprise Portal as one of the technology platform/component to enable a Corporate Portal... Regards Samsammy00 08:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree!!! Alex Jackl 17:23, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 하나님 사랑해요 ♡

하나님 사랑합니다 ㅎㅎ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.121.226.17 (talk) 03:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portala and such

Portals......they are just webpages. Why make things so "wordy". It's similar to when they came out with "e-furstructure" --Cincioh (talk) 18:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

From the point of view of an end-user you're right. A portal is just a website. However the technology behind the website is different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.184.231.254 (talk) 08:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)