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[edit] Somali Nomad Girls PictureThe picture at the bottom of the page falsely charactarizes teenage girls in traditional clothing as 'nomad girls'. I couldn't change the caption, could someone kindly follow up on it as its misleading. Young women routinely wear these clothes at wedding after parties or social gatherings. Those aren't nomad girls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.221.115 (talk) 03:34, 22 September 2008 (UTC) [edit] Proposed LinkNPOV:Education The education section about Quranic school is not written in NPOV style, I don't know much about this topic, but could someone who does rewrite, remove questionable words and add references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.103.168.131 (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Recent added infoinfo from this site[1] was added in the article a day ago i have removed it second if the person that contributed it wants to add in his/her own words about the spread of Islam in Somalia he/she should add it in the main article Islam in Somalia third about the Somali sultanates all lot was taken from the Northern Somali Sultanates article and i think it would be better if that info was added in the main article History of Somalia... RoboRanks 15:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC) [edit] PoeteryWhy isn't there a poetry section, am suprised it wasn't included. Poetry is one of our pastimes our people are renouned for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.80.150.125 (talk) 06:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Official long form nameplease someone cite sources as to the official long name of Somalia Ybgursey 00:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Languages of SomaliaYou guys should stop replacing what I wrote. The main language of Somali native minority second languages is Af-Maay and Swahili. Non-Native languages are Arabic and English are spoken well but Italian doesn't even deserve to be mentioned because hardly a soul speaks it in Somalia.
[edit] Ethiopian InvasionShould an article be about the Ethiopian invasion of Somali be made? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.14.222 (talk) 01:58, 25 December 2006 (UTC). Two points: from what i heard the only place that swahili is spoken in somalia is a village on the border with kenya called mushunguli with a population in the hundreds.in my opinin that does not warant swahili as an important language in somalia. [edit] de jure or de facto?Somalia exists solely on a de jure capacity, as stated in other Wikipedia articles, not de facto, as this article states. please correct. Ybgursey 02:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Map and SomalilandThe map in this page is not correct, as it shows Somalia as if the Somaliland is a recognized independent country, which is not. While it might be OK to show the boundary between the Somaliland and the rest of Somalia, it needs to be same color as Somalia. andy 08:04, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC) Basketballplayer90000 replies: Well actually Somaliland is de-facto independent. It did not take part in any of Somalia's peace conferences for the last 14 years. Somaliland conducts elections whereby the people within the territorry of Somaliland elect their president, their parliament and their local governments. Somaliland has a different currency than Somalia, its own military and navy and its own flag. Furthermore you might have noticed that the international press does not mention Somaliland as being party to the conflict beteen the UIC and the transitional "government" located in Baidoa. Done. andy 13:12, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC) There is only one Somalia recognized by the international community, therefore the map should have one color and any enclaves such the so called Somaliland should be ruled .warsame --60.48.83.122, 09:37, 28 Oct 2004 [edit] First sentence?The first sentence is a bit strong. According to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/country_profiles/1072592.stm there is some kind of government now.
not really... transitional governmant is only a group of individuals based in kenya. And controls no teritory, its just another group. They have no institutions. PMA 02:45, Nov 24, 2003 (UTC) "Continentally, it is entirely surrounded by Ethiopia and Djibouti on the north and mid-west, by Kenya on its south-west, and by the Gulf of Aden on its north, and the Indian Ocean as its eastern border." So, Somalia is 'entirely' surrounded? Isn't this word unncessary, if not a little bit biased? At first lecture one may understand that Somalia "is entirely surrounded by Ethiopia" 'Continentally' needs something else to make sense, otherwise I'm understanding that it is also continentally surrounded by the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean. I would like to propose this: "Continentally, it is surrounded by Ethiopia and Djibouti on the north and mid-west, and by Kenya on its south-west; by the Gulf of Aden on its north, and the Indian Ocean as its eastern border." Kauderwelsch 06:16, 20 May 2006 (UTC) [edit] Economy sectionThe summary about Somalia's economy needs a rewrite. It will be very difficult to calculate GDP and other percentages, but Somalia is quickly becoming an economic power house in the Horn of Africa. Telecommunications in Somalia, for one, provides the cheapest rates on the African continent, with international rates going between 20 cents to 50 cents now. There are many pasta companies, fisheries and internet cafes that dot throughout the country. There is even a Coca Cola plant. Nov 12, 2004 I agree with the above paragraph. I challenge anybody to read this *Stateless in Somalia, and Loving It and remain satisfied with this entry in its current state. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.105.240.110 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC) The fact that the info box's "transitional goverment" links to anarchy is amusing, but is it appropriate? 67.176.18.164 04:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC) "Surrounded" denotes encircling something. You can't surround something on one side only. The correct term to be used here, especially since we're talking about geography, is "bordered by" or "neighboring country". [edit] Provisional governmentMay the people of Somalia be fortunate and may the provisional government never step foot in Mogadishu. --Golbez 03:59, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC) Provisional government took over Mogadishu bloodlessly today, following the withdrawal of the Islamic Courts government. Given that the Provisional government has built a working coalition with Ethiopia and routed the Islamic Courts, can we quit calling it "weak" on the front page? 138.162.128.44 16:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC) [edit] Accuracy dispute
From page, replaced with Template:Dubious. See Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute for more information on this kind of stuff--but it seems we do have a problem here. Wikiacc 22:47, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] PopulationI know there is lots of variation in population estimates, but the numbers given should be more or less official numbers. In the demographics section, the population is estimated at around 8.5 million (shown beside it is a map of Somalia including Somaliland). The Somaliland page claims that the population there is 3.5 million, and the Puntland page claims Puntland has a population of 3.65 million. Mogadishu itself definitely has a few million (estimate 3-4 million), and there is still the rest of southern Somalia unaccounted for. You see the problem here? Either the overall estimate of 8.5 million is way too low, or the Puntland / Somaliland figures are way too high (which, being in the much more stable parts of the country, I somehow doubt). How are these numbers constructed anyway? - Jeff [edit] CleanupAn anonymous user (Friedo, perhaps) tagged this article for cleanup. I cannot figure out why. The article is not perfect, but it is actually in pretty good shape, a good article relative to the rest of the encyclopedia. If someone wants to specify exactly why this article needs cleanup, then at least the other editors can address it. Better yet, those who think it needs cleanup can actually do it. I will remove the tag in the meantime, since without details it is an impossible request. I would suggest that this article needs to mention the Xeer. An article about a society without a government that doesn't mention the system of law seems unencyclopedeic to me. RussNelson 06:14, 20 May 2006 (UTC) [edit] Clarification"Much of Somali society is highly organized and business is doing remarkably well." This is a very vague statement. What does it mean actually? Where are the statistics? --Eleassar777 07:45, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. Nevertheless, it doesn't seem to agree with what is written in the section "Economy" of the article. --Eleassar777 21:08, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
The economic section is a contradiction. "Somalia has a market economy. As one of the world's poorest and least developed countries", this statement seems to imply that a market economy leads to a country that is poor and impoverish. Gobstomper 01:11, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
...Abdirashid Ali Shermarke as Prime Minister....In late 1969, a military government assumed power following the assassination of Shermarke, who had been chosen, and served as, President from 1967–1969. ??? 154.20.186.105 03:06, 17 April 2006 (UTC) [edit] Templatecan someone set the table currectly? [edit] Economy and POVI can't really put my finger on it (well maybe I can), but I detect a POV creeping in through recent edits of the "Economy" section. I'm not sure how these specific economic hot spots (e.g. wireless telecom, internet cafes) benefit, for instance, the rural (and, I assume, pastoralist) Somalians who form the majority of the population. I'm not sure if it's what the editor(s) are trying to put across, but it comes off as "laissez-faire economics are good for Somalia, as evidenced by the growth of wireless telecom etc." It's far from suggesting that Somalia is some sort of libertarian Utopia, but reading between the lines, it feels as though that's where someone's edits are coming from. Perhaps the bigger point is that one should not expect to read between the lines in an encyclopedia. Also the edits are leading to some (possible) contradictions:
This comes off as criticizing the Barre government for intervening in the economy ("suppressing free enterprise"), but also for not intervening ("neglect"). ("Socialist" and "suppressed free enterprise" had been added more recently to the earlier version of the sentence.) The wireless communications sector is important enough that the World Almanac 2004 lists it as one of Somalia's light industries. ("Economy: Industries: A few light industries, incl. sugar refining, textiles, wireless communication.") But I'm wondering if it's listed only because it is one of the only sectors sufficiently organized to qualify as an "industry." I would also not describe the situations in Somaliland and Puntland as anarchy - they may not be de jure (i.e. internationally recognized) governments but they are de facto governments. On the other hand I would also consider the warlord militias as "de facto governments" (and thus not "anarchists") in the basic sense of imposing one's will over that of another. For what that's worth. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:56, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I know nothing about Somalia, but it's interesting to note that the Economy of Somalia article paints a much less rosy picture. Cadr 18:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] HistoryCan anyone add history of Somalia prior to 1977? 207.225.246.225 23:30, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) Yes, it is on there, but for brevity's sake, the history section starts in '77. If you wantto read the complete history of Somalis, you can click History of Somalia. --Soomaali [edit] Map and PuntlandThe current map showing regions of control is inaccurate. That map has Puntland controlling almost all of Somalia. If that was the case, then why is Somalia considered as having no central government? Puntland has never considered secession, but is only supposed to be an organized/governed region. If such a region extends over most of Somalia, then ipso facto Somalia would have a government. Besides, a check on the web (google or yahoo) will not turn up a single map that shows Puntland as extensive as the one depicted here (except for the imitator websites like Answers.com). Puntland has disintegrated as a region, it is lawless, piracy is rampant off its shores, people are being robbed at night in massive numbers in both Bosasso and Garowe the two main towns of Puntland. Most importantly however is the fact that international NGO's have abandoned Puntland and the UN agencies have left the region to after their staff continued to be attacked and kidnapped by elements apparantly related to the Puntland "administration". [edit] New bookI become angry by reverts with comments like: "Remove advertising for a little known, and highly biased book" [7] of people without any respect and standard of knowledge. The book is a new one. It is still not to buy. I list the book because it gives the reader the possibility to self-improvement on the law and culture in Somalia. There is nothing better for this widely unknown topic. Maybe it is a POVed resource. But all books and links are less or more POV. This is no problem so long as the reader know what he gets. --Irgendwer 10:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Possible primary sourceI happened across the following article which has a lot of good information: http://www.dnd.ca/somalia/vol1/v1c11e.htm Some of this would be useful as-is, but there is a copyright notice at the bottom, and it appears thatr works by the Canadian government are not in the public domain [8]. If nothing else there is a lot of info. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC) [edit] Somalia as "free market anarchy"A society cannot be both in anarchy (no government) and be a free market. A free market requires a huge level of regulation and coercion to maintain its existence, for example a legal and judicial process for dealing with cases of fraud and theft. I don't suppose these are provided under anarchy. Even libertarians know that the free market requires some government. "Free market anarchy" is a contradiction in terms; it should just say, "anarchy". I won't presume to make changes to the first paragraph without discussion, however.
From thread-starter That's very interesting, I'd never thought of this idea before. I suppose that a system of, basically, private vengeance could enforce the rules of the market (eg. like the enforcement of criminal sanctions by vendetta not by a State). I take your point, although I'm unsure that private security arrangements can be called 'government'. You might agree that this complex idea would have to be explained a little in the article, if we go with it.
Wouldn't this "discussion" about the alleged virtues of "anarcho-capitalism" be better served on a page about same? Perhaps the obvious bloodlust being displayed could be toned down a bit as well. [edit] FlagI had to remove the flag as it linked to an offensive image. Bearbear 18:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC) Currently, it shows the flag of USA. [edit] Blog link - LVM Instititute LinkI've again removed the link to [11]. It is simply a blog posting by someone who has "studied law in London, where she now works in financial services" and has no apparent expertise on Somalia. No one would ever consider linking to a highly POV blog entry about the American economy at the United States article. So why would we allow it in this one? - SimonP 23:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Somalia has no (...qualities...) nor any other feature associated with an established nation state.I removed "nation" from state; since this is more restrictive term and does not have a legal definition. The change also reflects the definitions in the respective artices- nation state, and state- in Wikipedia.Beside, at he heart of the conflict are differing cultures and the country consists of many cultures- so the reference to "state" is correct, while the one to "nation" is not.(Gary Joseph 21:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)) As far as I've researched based upon sources cited in this article, Somalia has an interim government with Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed as President and Ali Mohamed Ghedi as Prime Minister, and a, although weak, national currency known as the Somali shilling (11,000 per $1 US in 2000). I believe that the first paragraph needs to be edited regarding these delopments as cited in [12] and [[13]]. --ZsinjTalk 21:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
The government has moved back to somalia and for the first time met in baidao with over 200 PM's and western diplomats.
My understanding of the Somali shilling is that there is no one entity which controls the quantity of currency issued. That would make it NOT a characteristic of a central government. You might ask why people accept it. If there are no currency amounts larger than some fixed value, then the paper currency, nominally a fiat currency, will not be inflatable if the largest bill costs as much to print as it is worth. What will happen then is that the supply of currency will stay fixed until enough deflation occurs to make printing of bills (slightly) profitable. Competition will ensure that the profit from "counterfeiting" will stay low. RussNelson 06:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC) [edit] photos requestAnyone have a photo of Somalia that shows the more modern aspects? Cities, buildings, cars, electricity, internet cafes, etc? The photo of a livestock herder makes it look like they're stuck in the stone age, but that's not the case --as can be seen here in these copyrighted photos: [14] RJII 16:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC) Somalia has been in various wars since the 60s, so they don't have sky scrapers and the sort, rather Morrocan type cities with rather beautiful white buildings everywhere. Typical Arabic architecture. I was just wondering though why Canadian troops and an American helicopter are displayed on a page that details an east African state. razr [May 11, 2006] [edit] photos huh?Hello again, I just realized how patently banal it is having pictures of an invading army on a page thats supposed to detail a foreign country. Would it be appropriate for the US page to have the drawings of British soldiers in the revolutonary war? I'm wiki challenged and unable to change it, could someone please take 2 minutes out of their very busy schedules to fix it. Mogadishu has some very pretty scenary, i'm sure you could come up with beautiful pictures. razr May 11, 2006
[edit] Contradiction about Operation united shieldThere seems to be a clear contradition in this paragraph: Beginning in 1993, a two-year UN effort (primarily in the south) was able to alleviate famine conditions. The UN withdrew in Operation United Shield by March 3, 1995, having suffered significant casualties, and the rule of government has not yet been restored. However, the concluding sentence of the article on Operation United Shield is: A success, the operation saw the safe withdrawal of all 6,200 troops, as well as over a hundred combat vehicles, without a single UN or US casualty. So, which one was it? Were there significant casualties or not a single fatality?
[edit] Earlier Somali historyAs a World Civilizations student, I find this artical lacking in details on Somali colonization, and general early history. The earliest date mentioned in the history section is 1960, and the start of the section says "independence of Somaliland from the United Kingdom was proclaimed" without explaining how Somaliland came to be under the rule of the UK, etc. 67.180.248.197 04:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC) [edit] APC-EC CourierI can find no evidence for this publication. It gets virtually no Google hits, and does not seem to be available in any major library. Perhaps you are just copying a mistyped reference from this site, a highly POV work by someone with no background in the subject at hand. However, I'm sure you would not cite a source that you had not actually read, because doing so would be a major breach of research standards. If you have a copy of this journal, what is its full name and what date did this article come out? With this information it might be possible to find it. Also this article comes from some time prior to 1998, so presenting it as a view of the current situation in Somalia is somewhat inaccurate. - SimonP 01:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bullyingsomalians in many schools in london(especially north) are prone to bullyingfor many reasons.The main reasons are for a lot of Somalis having flat faces so people call the "Abdul you got ran over by a truck on your face" and "abdul did your mum smack you on the face with a frying pan" and many many more.Also they are bullyed about because many somalis have braces and they say they are born with them now by the cause of evolution, but the main form of bullying is they call somalans "abdul" as most somelians have this name and are recognised by it. how do the somalians react? they mostly dont do nothing except they start cussing them and if the bullying goes far they bring a gang calledT.M.S(too many somlians) and have grenades thrown at them in extreme circumstances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahoz.a (talk • contribs) 14:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Rahoz.a (talk) 14:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC) [edit] Timeframe Contradiction"The 2nd Battle of Mogadishu started in May 2006. The battle is being fought between the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counterterrorism or "ARPCT" and militia loyal to Islamic court union or "ICU". The conflict began in mid-February." So did this start in mid-February, or in May? Adoubleplusgood 21:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
the islamic movement seems to have contolled most of south and central somalia. it has been said that business man are funding the islamist and are bringing a law of sharia into the country. The united state suspects the leader of the islamist movement to be a member of alithad which is part of the UN terrorist organization...please add to itRahoz.a (talk) 14:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC) [edit] Ethiopian Troops in Somaliathere are rumors that that the TFG have ethiopians troops in somali-land, and more rumors that ereterian troops are in somalia too. somalia could become a battle ground for the arch foes
[edit] International Recognition of SomalilandThe article on Somaliland claims that Ethopia has recognized Somaliland's independance (no source is given, however). If true, the statement in this article that Somaliland is unrecognized should be changed. In addition, Wales has recognized the sovereignty of Somaliland[15], and that should probably be noted, even though Wales is part of the UK, not a separate nation.
[edit] Maps of SomaliaI'm thinking of creating a map of Somalia showing current and recent positions of the various warlords, the Islamic courts, Ethiopian incursions etc.I've been frustrated by the lack of information forthcoming from the media about the exact locations of the various groups. Anyone interested in helping out? I could use help with creating maps and finding appropriate sources. Polocrunch 18:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Natural ResourcesIt is believed that Somalia has significant oil resources. I added this.
[edit] AfD nomination for Prof. Mohamud Siad ToganeAn article about a Somali-Canadian, Prof. Mohamud Siad Togane, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prof. Mohamud Siad Togane. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC) [edit] De-facto/de-jureSomaliland is de-facto recognised. But not de-jure recognised. Somalia on the other hand is de-jure recognised but de-facto non-existant. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Basketballplayer90000 (talk • contribs) . shotwell 00:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I think a simple Map should not be the reason for trolling and selfishly delete a whole page people should post why they edit in the first place RoboRanks 00:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)RoboRanks
[edit] Somaliland's De-facto and De-jure StatusAfter having spoken to experts on African affairs in the US State Depertment I was given the following information as regards Somaliland. The Republic of Somaliland is de-facto independent and hence de-facto recognised by neighboring countries such as Djibouti and Ethiopia as well as many European countries. De-facto meaning it is a reality on the ground and so countries have to deal with the reality. However the Republic of Somaliland is not de-jure recognised, de-jure meaning legally, so Somaliland is according to international law not yet a country but according to real-politik it is. Somalia is the opposite of Somaliland. Somalia is de-jure recognised but de-facto it does not exist as a country. In other words no group controlls the territorry of Somalia but legally in international law it has the status of a country. Many point to this absurdity in the Horn of Africa as a case point why international law needs to be updated to face current realities so a well managed country like Somaliland which is a de-facto reality does not suffer while a country in warfare such as Somalia is accorded various benefit because of its de-jure status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basketballplayer90000 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Basketballplayer90000 says: I will try to do so Doc-Tropics. However I sense a doublestandard here, why is nobody asking for verification of the false map that keeps being posted to the Somalia page? Either we try to play by the rules all the time or the system will break down. A man can not readily stand by when he is being unfairly wronged and treated differently then others on the chess board. I shall immediately try to provide references that are verfiable.
There is nothing factually incorrect about my maps, I have drawn Sool and Sanaaq as being "disputed territory" between Puntland and Somaliland. This may be a dispute that you, as a Somalilander, do not recognize, but it is reality nonetheless. I am aware that with the ICU literally knocking on the door of Puntland that Somaliland achieving international recognition is the only assurance of safety at this point, but don't take it out on the truth. Besides, I think recognizing that Sool and Sanaaq are disputed would get you more international credibility that the ridiculous assertion that Somaliland has no domestic problems whatsoever. Somaliland has pretty serious clan-based rebel groups in the east AND west. --Ingoman 02:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
ALERT ALERT ALERT: I have noticed one major mistake with the map, click on the map to make it larger: see the area called Ceerigabo, that is not part of the disputed area, it is fully in the controll of Somaliland. That is were the Sanaag regions capital of Erigabo is located. Wikipedia should take down the disputed map and just put up a blank map of Somalia showing the boundaries with other countries untill we settle this dispute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farasfarasfaras (talk • contribs)
[edit] Border dispute and the MAPWhy don't we settle this issue the way the UN settles border dispute. First we look at where the curent battlines are drawn, in other words how much do Somaliland control and how much do Puntland control of these regions. The Sanaag region is in Somaliland control militarily but verbally disputed by Puntland so leave Sanaag out of it. As for Sool region the abattle lines are currently drawn in Adiadeeye which is about 10km northwest of the regional capital Las anod. Somaliands military is in Adiadeeye and Puntland controls Las Anod so the egion is split 65-35 in favor of Somaliland while Puntland control the regional capital. The area called Buhoodle in the map is well known somaliland stronghold and far from disputed. [edit] Somaliland, Puntland and POVSince we seem to be under a politically-motivated attack here, I suppose I should outline what's going on here. Puntland and Somaliland have a dispute over the Sool and Sanaaq regions of Somalia, a dispute that is primarily clan-based. This is because Sool and Sanaaq are inhabited mainly by Darod clans and Somaliland was created by Issaq clans, who still hold most of the power in the country. Puntland's support is primarily derived from Darod clans, who resent Somaliland's Issaq ruling over Sool and Sanaaq. Both sides have consistently refused to accept the other's claim, or even existence of such claim, and consider both sides occupation of any part of Sool or Sanaaq as an occupation. This is a very hot button issue, and the Somaliland equivalent of the Israel-Palestine issue (in terms of what exactly defines Somaliland and Puntland). Thus people should be very cautious in being swayed one way or the other on this issue. --Ingoman 04:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I also reported to AN/I with request that the accounts be investigated and appropriate action taken. If the troublesome accounts are blocked I think the Protection could be removed. The entire issue seems to have been politically motivated. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 04:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MapThe map showing the political factions is confusing I suggest 1. Removing all colouring and detail from Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. have them plain white with country names in BOLD. 2. Removing Kenya ,Ethiopia and Djibouti from the map key. 3. rearranging the map key so that the factions that are members of the Provisional Govt are next to each other.200.108.28.37 18:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
The Maps detail GREATER SOMALIA and the areas where all SOMALIS live. So, the map shouldn't be changed, its fairly accurate. FAH1223 18:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC) [edit] Proposed WikiProjectIn my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Eastern Africa at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Eastern Africa whose scope would include Somalia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC) [edit] Great ArticleThis is a really great article. I think it's one of the best on Wikipedia, not focusing on factual information and fallacies. Just in terms of information presented, and the way that it is presented, I think it is one of the best. Hizrael 12:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC) [edit] Someone changed the flagJust noticed that someone has replaced somalia flag with USA flag. I have just removed the US Flag but do not know how to replace it with the Somali flag. [edit] Removed dubious paragraphI have removed the paragraph added by Mohmoe at 22:52, 23 December 2006. It made some dubious claims about U.S. support, and some original analysis of the military situation. This information, if true, is interesting; however, it should be properly referenced before being re-added. -- Beland 19:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC) [edit] War in SomaliaPlease expand this info as it is a current event.--HalaTruth(ሀላካሕ) 00:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 'Warlords vs 'militas'Why are the ARPCT being called warlords while the UIC are being called militas? It seems, at least to me, that neither side are clearly capable of being called either one. It seems that there is bias here saying that UIC are not "warlords" whereas the ARPCT are. Thanks for any clarifaction. 72.161.164.122 18:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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