Talk:Russian culture

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Dear Folks,

we have an active message board on Russia and its culture. The group is called "The New Russian Forum" its free to join and use it for your interests...

THE NEW RUSSIAN FORUM: http://forums.delphiforums.com/motherrus/

we have people from around the world... Dosvedaniya....

Was this article written by Vladamir Putin? It's poorly written and has a twinge of arrogance. If you wanna see how a culture article should be written see the "Culture of Germany" article :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sooofisticated0499 (talk • contribs) 05:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

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I removed the redirect from the moving Falphin 01:20, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I will be adding additional things I don't get to tommow as well. Falphin 01:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Modeling

I'm modeling this article after Culture of China. So I still have a long ways to go with this but I going to stop until tommorow after one last last edit. Falphin 02:29, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I'm quitting for now, but it still need a lot more. Falphin 15:21, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sentence?

"After Stalin died Soviet Art went into decline after Stalin's death as gradually Russians artists became more independent of the state and in the 1980's the government ruled that it could not restrict what Russians artists could paint."

This sentence makes no sense and I don't want to try to edit because I'm not sure what it is trying to say. It seems contradictory to say that after Stalin died art went into decline because artists had more freedom... bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 11:39 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture

The paragraph opening up the architecture section needs some more clear thoughts. I don't know enough about the topic to do it myself. Things that need to be cleaned up include "Later by Soviet culture..." I don't already know what effect Soviet culture had on architecture that is why I'm reading a section about architecture in the Soviet culture article.

"...which took style around the 11th century." I don't know if this means churches weren't built before the 11th century or if the style used today didn't come into being until the 11th century. Needs clarification.

Basically we just need more specifics. Considering most people know nothing of Russian architecture some of these sentences are very confusing and vague. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 11:53 (UTC)

[edit] Opera

Need to expound why the opera artists fled the country after the October Revolution. I'm guessing it was because of the strict cultural oppression brought on by the Bolsheviks... bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:07 (UTC)

[edit] Cuisine

Definitely need more information in this category. Saying that Russia offers lots of soups, fish, cereal based products (?) and drinks just makes me curious. Give examples of some of the soups and drinks. Explain what the heck they do with cereal based foods... Perhaps an explanation of why there is little meat in the diet of the average Russian. Too poor to afford meat perhaps? If you have some Russian recipes perhaps a link to WikiBooks cookbook with some recipes of interest might be a nice touch. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:19 (UTC)

[edit] Tourism

Yikes, this section is a painful run-on. I'll do what I can to fix some of the grammar but the content needs some clarification. Explain what the famous "white nights" are or at least link to something that does. Explain why tourists want to check out the rich traditions of the smaller town or why they want to see Vladivostok. bDerrly talk contr 28 June 2005 12:32 (UTC)

• Good points, I already removed a POV sentence but will work on this section, as next to the dance it is probably in the most need. Falphin 29 June 2005 01:51 (UTC)

[edit] Time

Its not looking like I'm going to have a chance to edit this article before my trip but I'll keep this on the priority list. Falphin 2 July 2005 15:13 (UTC)

[edit] "Highly complex"

The following phrase removed from intro.

Modern Russian culture is highly complex and has been shaped by Czarist and Soviet influences and under the religious leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church.

"Highly complex" is a useless phrase in encyclopedia: most national cultures are complex.

"czarist and Soviet influences" is laughable phrasing in its primitivity, esecially the "czarist influence" part.

"Religious leadership" is an unfortunate phrasing: it is applicable only to certain periods.

Inherently, the phrase is correct: every culture is complex and bears traces of all time periods in their history. But is is constructed in a totally wrong way. mikka (t) 17:46, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing the page. I do disagree on your final point. Religious leadership is 100% about Russian culture. Religious leadership affected them from Ancient Rus till the end of the Czarist period. After that they played an important underground role which simply affected the culture in a different way. And now in modern Russia, the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church plays an extremely important role in politics and social issues. Falphin 20:34, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I am afraid I have disagree with the usage of the term "leadership" in this context, although I don't deny its influence. I absolutely agree that the Russian Orthodox faith shaped the Russian culture, but an attempt to put the Church in the "leadership" position is a politicizing of the issue. mikka (t) 20:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

One other note, I have created a page to try to revise the article. My goal is to get this to FAC level by next summer. There is no culture article that has reached FAC yet and in my opinion this is sadly about as good as any other culture article right now. User:Falphin/Russian culture.

As a note, I like how the culture is described as 'rich and colourful', I'd love to see a culture article where the subject is described as 'simple and bland'. 70.70.97.117 09:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Culture of Russia

Culture of Russia and Russian culture require a major rewrite to draw a clear separation between the two. I started the stub "Culture of Russia" to indicate the idea, but I am in no way a "kulturtreher". My sole goal was to indicate the "velikoderzhavny shovinizm" ("Great Russia chauvinism") tendency and initiate the struggle against it. mikka (t) 18:23, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kamarinskaya

Here it was written:

The first known opera made in Russia was A Life for the Tsar by Mikhail Glinka in 1836. This was followed by several operas like Ruslan and Lyudmila in 1842 and Kamarinskaya in 1848.

This was a bad mistake, Kamarinskaya was not an opera at all, but a piece for orchestra, I've cut it out. (Meladina 23:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Interwiki

I tried to add the spanish interwiki but the page it's semi-protected... Could someone add it, please?? [[es:Cultura de Rusia]] Thank U!!! Chuck Norris Tell me everything 12:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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