Talk:Kashrut

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[edit] History section is needed

This article would benefit tremendously from a history section. How did the dietary laws evolve? For example, were they already in place at the time of the Roman empire? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.134.212.135 (talk) 15:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You give us good source, we try to write good section. If you have to believe the Bible, Daniel kept kosher at the Babylonian emperor's palace. But then the Bible itself states that the laws of Kashrut were given to Moses about 3,300 years ago. I am not personally aware of secondary/secular sources documenting adherence to the dietary laws in antiquity. JFW | T@lk 11:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wild game?

Under the principles section of the article it states the following:

Many wild game would be kosher if they could be shechted but as they are wild and cannot be tamed it would be impossible to shecht without desacrating one of the requirements as well as giving a misconception that all wild game are kosher.

Can someone fix the article, or just respond here, to explain why a wild or untamed animal can't be shechted? That text from the article is very confusing. Gh5046 (talk) 06:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Wild animals are hunted. With the exception of trapping, hunting means killing the animal in the wild, ruining the opportunity for shechita. (I agree that the wording is unclear.) MagnesianPhoenix (talk) 16:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Kosher Halal?

There are less restrictions for Halal than for Kosher. When it comes to meat, a proper method is to be followed (the same in Kosher as it is in Halal). So is it safe to say that all Kosher food (except alcoholic wine) is permissible for muslims (or in other words, is Halal) ? --Zybez (talk) 14:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

According to the Halal article, it's "an ongoing debate", with "most Muslim authorities" effectively disagreeing with you. See also Islamic and Jewish dietary laws compared. MagnesianPhoenix (talk) 16:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed redirect

I think that "kosher" should redirect here and that Kosher should be moved to Kosher (disambiguation). Does anyone agree or oppose? MagnesianPhoenix (talk) 16:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Giraffe

Someone kindly added a Daily Telegraph link that the giraffe has now been declared kosher. The article is internally inconsistent though. The principle of chalav tamei eino ma'amid doesn't work the other way round, i.e. one cannot declare an animal kosher because its milk exhibits certain properties! Does anyone have a better source on this - which beth din decided on it? JFW | T@lk 11:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Michael Jackson kosher?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1220353263659&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter

One of his daughters is I think, or sons. I mean is Jewish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.119.33 (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

In general human flesh is not kosher, regardless of who the human being is or was. --Bachrach44 (talk) 18:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kashmiri Muslims Call Halall as Kash

Kashmiri Muslims call Halal as Kash (Abbr of Kashrut). This is perhaps because of a longstanding jewish influence in Kashmir(Probably coming from Persia) noted by travellers including Alberuni(ca 1000 A.D)scribe (talk) 15:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] In comparison and contrast to nearby cultures

Can someone please explain this recent edit to me? I don't know what it's the inverse of or what sense it makes, or why it should be in the article. Does "original bible" mean Old Testament, re-definitions of what?

Inversely, the abandoning of Kashrut food practices that are detailed in the Torah (original bible) during the re-definitions of the new testament, is a signifyer of mainstream divergence from the Jewish practice, way of life, and creed.

Bob98133 (talk) 15:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)