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[edit] Coat of arms of the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland

		close bird	close big cat
for lion in the middle of shield	antelopes

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Request: cleanup and SVGify -- Chris 06:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

"Vectors and Rasters and Scaling, oh my!" Discussion

Looking at the rate of progress on the emblems above, and the quality of this bitmap, I'd be surprised if it gets any attention soon. I might be a bit of a radical in this opinion, but I don't think -all- emblems should be svgified. Some, like this one, are better as bitmaps IMHO. But I'm just a junior member, and I can't speak for the other wikigraphists. --Slashme 16:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Except it's a gif, not a bitmap. Chris 07:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I think he means bitmap as in the sense of a raster image. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 09:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Correct. I guess I should be more specific.--Slashme 09:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't jump to conclusions based on my Triestian[sic] request; I had neglected to provide information requested. Also, check out (one of) the best SVGs ever, Image:UK Royal Coat of Arms.svg that was done (and pretty quickly!) here. 68.39.174.238 19:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

That was User:Chabacano, and I think the best work I've seen done here. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 20:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah but look at the file size of that svg... 1.59MB. That was seriously a dumb think to do, and really ruins the point of converting images to vector format. Ok, so it resizes as big or as small as you like it...But at what cost? An unnecessary large file size. XcepticZP 14:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Right lets think about this, the vector Chabacano made, as a raster graphic, at around 400px² would be 156 KB. On the 46 pages on the English Wikipedia alone it is used, around 3 pages each would use the graphic at the same resolution. Multiply 156kb * 15⅓ = 2392 kb = 2.34 MB. All of the different sizes needed, uploaded separately, would equal 2.34 MB

1.4 MB ^[1] compared to 2.34 MB. I'd say that was a good deal.

^[1] I removed some stray code and re-uploaded it, it is now 1.4mb

> Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 18:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention that there are more points to SVGs then just scaling. And, in all honesty, I suspect that a raster graphic that detailed would easily be as large as that. 68.39.174.238 16:52, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Errrr.... I don't think the primary purpose of a vector image us to have a small filesize - it's more the lossless resizing. And there are lots of other features too. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 21:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Here's a start... -- Kaboom88 06:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Might get some elements from this image Image:Flag of the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland.svg. > Rugby471 ^talk ⚔ 17:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I found a close bird and a close big cat, both at the ostentatious Image:Coat of arms of Zambia.svg and Image:Malawi coa.png, as well as a 50 year old badge Image:Scouting in Nyasaland historic badge.png, which I have a larger one somewhere. Found the antelopes Image:Rhodesiancoatofarms.GIF Chris 05:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Cronholm for running with the torch! Chris 16:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It's still rough...Anything out there with higher quality? —Cronholm¹⁴⁴ 22:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I checked and checked and got a jumbo-sized bag o' nothin'. What do you feel is still to be done? Chris 22:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, well if you look close at the svg or the gif the features are basically undefined blobs, but if you think that is okay I'm okay too. The real reason I said it is incomplete is because I used the tracing tool (sort of) in inkscape when making the catfishbird and I think I could probably tweak a few things. But again, if your good so am I. Cheers—Cronholm¹⁴⁴ 00:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I am most pleased-it's vivid, faithful to the one image we can find through exhaustive searching, loses the graininess and scales well. I vote complete, and as always am most thankful to you. Chris 02:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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