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[edit] Possible vandalism

Someone changed "Monet" to "Bonnet" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamernotnerd (talk • contribs) 20:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 2005

This article needs a lot of work. I deleted something about his best paintings being of his garden because they had a lot of colors in them. Quantity does not equal quality. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Conversion script (talk • contribs) 25 February 2002.

I gave the article a once-over. More info could be added from the references cited. --sparkit 07:14, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Monet in Asia?

From what I understood he lived in Japan for a while, didnt he?

Antonio Monet (and Manet's) Lover Martin 4 Feb. 2005

He didn't live in Japan, but studied some Japanese art. --sparkit 07:14, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
and collected Japanese art too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ariele (talk • contribs) 02:49, 16 November 2005 UTC.

70.242.157.149 07:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Should we include anything about Masashi Kishimoto? He was a fan of Monet.

[edit] Merge Alice Hoschedé article

Does simply being the spouse of a notable person honestly make you notable?

I think the Alice Hoschedé article should be deleted or merged to the this article at a minimmum.

James084 20:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Unless she was notable in her own right or had such a big impact on his work that she merits her own article, I would vote for merge. --Etacar11 20:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Alice Hoschedé redirected to Claude Monet. All material was already present in the Monet article. SilkTork 20:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mother

I reverted an edit by a vandal, the text of which was "His mother died in 1857, when he was only 17." If this can be verified it should be restored. Hu 21:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

No it is right... his mother died when he was 16. See my revision. Source: Monet the Ultimate Impressionist (Sylvie Patin, Abrams Discoveries Series).

I don't know but I believe that the line in the biography that says "On 1 April 1885 Monet entered the Le Havre secondary school." may be wrong? It's the date I'm unsure about because 1885 would be much too late. I don't know the correct date so I can't change it myself.

My error (I think). The date should read: On 1 April 1851, per the Abrams reference above. Sorry about that.

  • No problem, I fixed it. Thanks for the info! --Etacar11 02:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • true he won the sweepstakes?

I concur that he was the BEST ARTIST OF ALL TIME!! RIGHT ON!! Eenyminy 03:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cataracts

It is interesting to note that the paintings done while the cataracts affected his vision have a general reddish tone, which is characteristic of the vision of cataract victims

If he saw everything reddish, he would see his painting reddish, so his painting would seem normal to people without cataracts. If this is a real case, it should be rephrased.

The ultraviolet thing seems slightly plausible though. He'd say UV colors and try to approximate them with his paints, but to healthy eyes, the UV component of the pigment is lost and we only see reddish.

[edit] Eidetic memory

He is cited as having eidetic memory.

[edit] Cultural depictions of Claude Monet

I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 15:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grainstacks

The proper term is 'grainstacks' not 'haystacks'. 216.91.240.14 17:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The beginnings of the term "impressionism"

I believe the term "impressionism" was coined pejoratively by a french critic, rather than deriving from "impression, sunrise." I could be mistaken. I'll return soon with the research

It was coined by a French critic who was critizing "Impression Sunrise." Eenyminy 03:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anonymous comment about 1871

According to the Sotheby's text on the Monet in my family's collection, Monet was in Holland in 1871 and not England. In fact he left France in September 1870, with the painter Daubigny, and arrived in Zaandam, Holland. I have not edited the above because it is not my own knowledge but you may make of it what you will that the painting of which I speak was painted in Zaandam in 1877. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.112.141.17 (talk • contribs) 20 November 2006.

[edit] GA notes

This article is way too short to currently be listed as a good article. The third criteria at What Is a Good Article asks for breadth of coverage, which this article sorely lacks. Combine that with some minor sourcing issues, and it has a ways to go. My suggestion is to expand this quite a bit and get a peer review in. Good luck. --badlydrawnjeff talk 01:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Child prodigy?

Monet was born on November 14, 1840 on the fifth floor of 45 rue Laffitte, in the ninth arrondissement of Paris.[3] He was the second son of Claude-Adolphe and Louise-Justine Aubrée Monet, both of them second-generation Parisians. On May 20, 1841, he was baptized in local parish church, Notre-Dame-de-Lorette as Oscar-Claude. [3] During this same year, Monet developed a reputation for his skill in drawing caricatures.

How could he have developed a reputation for drawing caricatures if he was 1 year old? Munchikinka 11:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I've reverted to the last version of the article (from April 11), prior to vandalism which had gone undetected, and which included deletion of headings and content. If in doing so I have deleted valuable content, please restore any such passages. JNW 02:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Vandalism does have a way of "building up", doesn't it :-( ?
Atlant 12:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] By the Way...

I think it's worth noting that Monet as a teenager drew charactictures of politicians and sold them. Also, he used his first wife Camille and one of his sons in some of his paintings. Eenyminy 03:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

His youthful caricatures and his paintings of Camille are mentioned in the article. JNW 03:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typo

I can't edit the page (locked) but I noticed a typo. I believe it should be "water lilies", rather than "waterlilies". 152.4.100.253 00:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

A google search reveals both are in use.[1] The National Gallery and Tate use Water-Lilies. Tyrenius 00:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation needed

From the article: Between 1883 and 1908, Monet traveled to the Mediterranean, where he painted landmarks, landscapes, and seascapes, such as Bordighera. He painted an important series of paintings in Venice, Italy, and in London he painted two important series — views of Parliament and views of Charing Cross Bridge. His wife Alice died in 1911 and his oldest son Jean, who had married Alice's daughter Blanche, Monet's particular favourite, died in 1914.[4] After his wife died, Blanche looked after and cared for him. It was during this time that Monet began to develop the first signs of cataracts.</ref>

What is the reference for the last sentence (bolded above)? - Dragonbite 16:16, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Reference now furnished. Thanks. JNW 02:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Claude Monet 035.jpg

The colour in this image is terrible. It needs to be subdued. Tyrenius (talk) 22:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I do like this painting's inclusion because it represents the brief but bleak wintery period of Monet's work when he was in mourning for Camille. Perhaps someone can upload a better version or another work from the period 1879-1880. Modernist (talk) 06:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I've tried a different painting from the same time, a much better image, at least. JNW (talk) 07:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I was uploading as you were substituting. I have no preference: I just saw the other one was not up to scratch. Tyrenius (talk) 08:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
No harm done. The new image is a vast improvement. JNW (talk) 09:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Well done, thanks - Modernist (talk) 12:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image size

Policy (often not followed, I know) is at Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Displayed_image_size. Images should be thumb (no need to put "right" as that's the default). Then user's preference settings (if modified) can adjust the size to suit. If size if specified, the preference settings don't work - try it and see. Maybe some discussion is needed here. Tyrenius (talk) 03:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Record posthumous sale

This is his most expensive painting sold: Monet's "Le Pont du chemin de fer a Argenteuil," an 1873 painting of a railway bridge spanning the Seine near Paris was bought by an anonymous telephone bidder for a record $ 41.4 million at Christie's auction in New York on May 6, 2008. The previous record for his painting stood at $ 36.5 million.Afp.google.com, Monet fetches record price at New York auction[2] --Florentino floro (talk) 06:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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